Q941 Jesse Norman: Reverend Flowers, I want to start from a slightly different point, which is the Rochdale Principles. How important were they to the Co-op when you were there and how important are they or were they to you?
Reverend Flowers: Because you, sir, have had more experience of the co-operative movement than probably many other persons on the Conservative benches, you will understand that the Co-operative Group has those embedded within its DNA. I think that there are occasions when they are honoured more in the breach than in reality. Nonetheless, they undergird everything we say we believe in. I genuinely believe that the group board in particular takes those principles extremely seriously. Whether or not we can remember all of them is another matter entirely.
Q942 Jesse Norman: Including principles of transparency and honesty, and all that stuff?
Reverend Flowers: Yes.